Monday, January 29, 2007

Fundamentalist Christianity


Ripped off from raincoasters blog, see her insightful response to a comment below:
raincoaster said,
January 29, 2007 at 5:46 am

Home schooling is actually pretty radical if you think about it, and relatively new as a social force. The connection with fundamentalist beliefs of ALL faiths is no accident.

There’s a danger in any absolutist philosophy of being a real jerk. When you believe that you not only know the truth but have a compelling moral obligation to convert people to your way of thinking, it’s easy to let one’s manners slide. It’s a MISSION, after all. But I believe that there is always a way to engage in possibly life-changing discourse without being an ass about it. God doesn’t want robot soldiers.
And see the full post on her excellent blog here.

Saturday, January 27, 2007

The catholic adoption debate

The balance between freedom of conscience and anti-descrimination law seems to have concentrated in this issue. It seems that you can think what you like but one's behaviour must be standardised. There is an argument for legislation keeping out of this can of worms and letting people work it out for themselves, so legislation should never have been passed in the first place. Well, maybe, but that doesn't make the wider issue go away. The problem the legislation seems to be quietly tackling is the separation of Church and State. The argument, or concern, politicians seem to have is the principle of religious groups to be exempt from law or common practice in this country. As the laws of this country have been founded on Christian belief it may seem astonishing to appear so rigid on this issue, but given the wider issue of other religious groups being exempt from law simply because of their religious beliefs, then that is not acceptable. For once, Westminster may just have got it right.

Monday, January 08, 2007

Letter regarding religious incite to hatred

An incite to hatred is not just a man speaking loudly and banging his fist. It can be in sophisticated language and spoken softly. This letter has been sent:

Dear Sir, it seems that Peter Mullen of The Parish Church of St. Michael's Cornhill in London is preaching politics from the pulpit and preaching against the Conservative party. I'm an Anglican Christian and a conservative and I want this man stopped.

The St Michael’s Foundation for Spiritual Understanding is a registered charity (Charity Number 1092919) established to promote spiritual understanding in the Church of England by sermons, lectures and publications.

The Foundation’s Patrons include the Lord Bishop of London, Robert Tear, Fay Weldon, Peter Hughes, Dr Digby Anderson, Professor the Revd David Martin, Professor Dennis O’Keefe and Professor Paul Helm. Its trustees are the Revd Dr Peter Mullen, Dr Clive Strickland and Mr Stephen Paxton.

This is an excerpt from one of Mullens sermons but there are more,


Critics of socialism say that this equality business is precisely where socialism goes wrong: that the attempt to impose equality always results in the loss of freedom. Economic critics of socialism go so far as to say that this attempt to even things up results in things becoming a lot more uneven. Well, we’ve all read The Servile State and The Roads to Serfdom - haven’t we?

Some have even read Karl Marx’s Das Kapital. Though I remember what Harold Wilson replied to some young socialist firebrand who thought the 1966 Labour Government had sold out to the market. What does Marx say on this, Prime Minister? And Wily old Harold said, Never read it. Not past page two anyhow and that notorious footnote there. A lot fall at that footnote you know!

There is a theological argument against strict socialism and it is that socialists cannot bring about the equality they desire – because the world is not an ideal place but an actual place. It is not a world of pure theory but of unpleasant facts. And that human
beings who are imperfect creatures cannot bring about the perfect society. This is what St Augustine said in City of God

So what do the conservative politicians say? (You understand of course that I am not
necessarily talking about that nice Mr Cameron who has hjs own ideas). Conservatives say that if you work with the grain of human nature and not against it, people will end up better off. And what do the critics of conservatism say to this? They say it doesn’t work. They say it promotes obscene riches for a few and appalling poverty for the many. As Galbraith said in 1958, Private affluence and public squalor

So where does St Augustine come into all this? Where does Christianity come in? The Christian Faith says that all attempts at the earthly paradise must fail. All our politics are imperfect, because we are imperfect. This is true for the individual and it is therefore true for society

And this is where we might venture a few words of comment to conservative politicians. For while the ideological socialist might pride himself on his atheism, there is a great deal of practical atheism among conservatives – only it masquerades itself as respectability. Conservatives do not usually think of themselves as having Original Sin. They think pretty well of themselves on the whole. They don’t really think of themselves as sinners in need of God’s forgiveness. They’re quite proud of how decent they are.

I’ve lost count of the number of times conservative friends have confided in me: The Christian faith isn’t actually true, you know – all that miraculous stuff - but it’s a good basis for morality. And I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve had to reply: But something that’s not true isn’t a good basis for anything. And without all that miraculous stuff there is no Christian faith at all

For the Christian, politics is not the ultimate, is not what’s most basic. Politics needs faith. Men and women need Christ the Redeemer. There is such a thing as society. There is such a thing as community. You have heard me quote T.S. Eliot on this before:
There is no life not lived in community. But he adds: And no community not lived in praise of God. And our lives must first of all actually be lives with God.

This is forgotten, even in the City. Oh they love to think of themselves as traditional. You come here on Friday to the City Service. They love to sing I Vow to Thee My Country and Jerusalem. They love the prayers for the Queen’s Majesty and everything else that goes along with Speech Night and rugger and striped trousers and spotted dick and the School Song. They believe in making money and then, encouraged by theologically illiterate and politically naïve clergymen, going off to salve their consciences with some extravagant gesture in the East End.

But the real duty of Christians in the political world is not such confused gestures.


This man is not only using the Christian Church and knowledge of scripture to suit his political agenda but this is my faith he's abusing and he's preaching against the Conservative party (and only the Conservative party).

He should be stopped.

He is in an influential position and this incite to hatred should NOT be allowed.

Actually he should be arrested.

The website is: http://www.st-michaels.org.uk/index.htm
The sermon quoted from is: http://www.st-michaels.org.uk/Sermons%202005/Sermon%20Christian%20faith%20and%20politics.pdf but there are many more online to read - it's not a once only show.
He is also peddling a book through the Church website: http://www.st-michaels.org.uk/PC%20Gospel%20press%20release.pdf

Saturday, January 06, 2007

The Wrath of God??